Come off definition is - to acquit oneself : fare. a brain has, the smarter the person is. Pandal: Panthal, Friend/Favour/Free : Parinthu/Pattru/Parivu (Parivu word in Tamil means to show favour or affection), Mad: Madamai (Mada = Moving mind, Not Stable Mind), Oral/Oration/Orate/Oracle : Urai ( Tamil it means To Speak, To give some news ), Villain: Ethiri (In Tamil it means "One who is with the Bow"), Orange:NaarthanKaai (A fruit with smell) (Naatram in Tamil means smell) ("Naa" sound in Tamil means "We Get hidden" like in Naakku, Naai, Naatram, Naakku etc..). to go crazy. It was Nohat who told that "the proto-Dravidian /l/ of 'four' which has been lost in Tamil" WHICH IS A COMPLETELY FALSE BASELESS STATEMENT. ANd we have ample proof to say that it is from Tamil. Should you have a category of "Words derived from a dravidian language". End: Antham(Antham means End, or near to the destination), Thick/Thin: The sound "Thi" in Tamil itself means "condition", Thinai, thilai, thikai, thirai, thiram, thiru, thiri, thisai, thikal etc are others words that defines the condition of the object/place. 2. Tamil: [noun] a Dravidian language of Tamil Nadu state, India, and of northern and eastern Sri Lanka. Let me clear the situation for you. Solicitors went from That is the major reason for the Tamil words in English. If an admin comes by and reads this, he or she will see that nohat and I have simply been upholding the standard of one of the three non-negotiable rules of Wikipedia: This question is irrelevant to the current dispute. Need to translate "hats off" to Tamil? There is only one Tamil from the time it had evolved and there is no old/modern Tamil boundary. 2. I think editors on both sides of this need to take a breather and approach this with a bit more civility. While I am not sure of this derivation, I suggest that this information be included in the article(after verification, of course. Roll/Round: Urul :Rotating or Round, Urulai means Sphere. One cannot repeatedly make filthy comments and bluster edits about something unknown to the person.Vayalir (talk) 14:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC), Nohat, based on your writings, I see that, you don't have any qualification to speak in Tamil. âThe actor says he is now able to speak in broken Tamil.â âHe is not a racialist, he can speak Tamil, and he knows the village scene and its characters well, and was not afraid to show his emotions.â âHowever, most of the concerts are performed in languages other than Tamil.â The seed of a Neem tree falls off to the ground and grows back into its parent size. What more proof do you need. In future, in case any English words borrowed from Malayalam of "NON-Tamil" origin come up, then we can think of adding a new article for Malayalam and give a link here as you said.Vayalir (talk) 14:04, 7 March 2008 (UTC), About betel: I think before making any changes to edits, the word must be understood. Torque / Turn / Drehen(German) : Thiruhi, Thirukku (Thirumbu=Turn Back) etc... Funeral /Funus : Pinam (means Corpse in Tamil) Meaning: Like less; Example: Ever since falling off my bike, sheâs gone off cycling to work. Dad: Thanthai : (May sound odd, but many languages including European has Tata, Tadah etc... for father., in Tamil "Than+thai" means "Keeping within his possession"). ting , sets v. tr. Should we also remove chef from List of English words of French origin because it is ultimately from Latin caput meaning "head"? I don't think that Wikipedia has a policy which permits me to call Mr.X a fool and the culture of Mr.Y's country as Speculation. The grammar then is still rock solid. 6. show off definition: 1. to behave in a way that is intended to attract attention or admiration, and that other peopleâ¦. Dumb head get this straight. That does not mean that they are not authoritative. The only other Indian Language that has literature of more than 20 centuries is Sanskrit. What is the ISBN of the gospel written by Luke and Mark in Sheep Skin. Hard: Kari , Kadi (Kadi means difficult to move in Tamil) "Kari" means Sronger in Tamil. Instead of having the explanation that 'cash' is ultimately from Latin, I think the word should simply be removed. River: Aaru/Aruvi (Other European words for river are Ryo, Rio...) in Tamil AA+ru means "Source unknown + Takes to here", Rice: Arici (Ari means to "Take within" and si= After breaking/removing), Reap:Aruppu (Aru means to "Take to inside" "pp" = Many), Rich: Arasu(Arasu means kingdom in Tamil), Rare : Ariya Thousands of our visitors search this Tamil dictionary directly from their Android smart mobile phones, iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch or Blackberry every day! Since the seedling(Malayalam) is separated from the parent(Tamil), you cannot refuse its origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 09:44, 6 July 2015 (UTC), Tamil is the OLDEST DRAVIDIAN LANGUAGE. Would be much appreciated. But, it has been incorrectly said that the language spoken 2000 years ago is similar to Tamil spoken today. Please do not bite people who are yet to get well-versed with Wikipedia policies. ; Go on. -- Arvind 20:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC), The word for teak in malayalam is tēkkŭ (തേക്കു്)not tēkka (തേക്ക) as stated in the article, unless an archaic form is meant. ", And Aravind has summed up the controversy very well with very important remarks, which I give here. Lake : Kulam (Latin "Lacus") in Tamil its inverse and Ku+la = Take inside + land refers to pond or lake. What is the ISBN of the Hebrew and Greek Bible, 4. The "Naal" is still used in Tamil and has not been lost. "OLD" by "Words Originated Indirectly through Malayalam". He has not apologised for his error, which has been pointed out and proved. It is possible that an explaination given in those printed encyclopedias/dictionaries could be inaccurate or incomplete. (The word 'RICE' coming from tamil Word ' arisi'(arisi=a(RISI=RICE)).I am not sure.this was my opinion), I have created a subtopic Orange < Naranj (French)< Naranja (Spanish < Naranjah (arabic) < Naranga (Sanskrit) < Narankai (Tamil) from naran (fragrance) + kai (fruit), What is the source for this? If it is found that (and I have considerable doubt) kuruntam is derived from sanskrit, I would say that it should be said so in the article or the word should be included in the page List of English words of Sanskrit origin instead, keeping in line with the tone of the tamil page. Accordinding to wikitionary, origin of "one" is polynesian, which is again controversially believed by some as origin of Indian languages also. (Ko, sound means "Take as one", in shape to accept something like a coconut half shell , here it refers to the shape that take things as one.). Further, I have spotted following words for which there is either no evidence or not sufficient evidence to trace their origin to Tamil. God - KadaUl - meaning One who went above all. Also, all words in Malayalam needn't be of Tamil origin. (we have already given). In fact "Nal" as well as "naangu" means four in tamil. you can write ANYTHING..I REPEAT ANYTHING on wikipedia as long as you can cite sources which are 'notable' and 'verifiable'(and what you write has to be encyclopaedic too). If you don't know something, just shut your mouth. Literal: (He) uprooted a mountain to catch a mouse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 04:36, 6 November 2017 (UTC), The Wiki entry says it is of Tamil origin. This could be true, but I for one am not satisfied until you cite a source with an ISBN that bears out your claim. Tnash310 (talk) 20:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC). Naaga literally means "that which we need hidden", Side : Idai (Meaning, Sides also means "Flanks of a person") (Cut the S), Throw: Thura, Thuranthu( in Tamil it means to reject or keep away from, one who keep away from worldly pleasure is a Thuravi(monk)), Stack: Adukku (cut the S) Learn more. What you are saying is something against the Official notification of Government of India. or "LOSER!" Either they are derived from each other or they are cognates). Do not take others' edits of your work personally. The best idea would be to do that if need and also not remove the words from here.Vayalir (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC), Malayalam and Tamil do not share linguistic roots. but that doesnt mean you can use that small victory to go ahead and make a claim as preposterous as "Tamil is the oldest Dravidian language". Putting it in Tamil is guesswork as far as I'm concerned (unless someone does indeed have a source for this). [Middle English in sted of, in place of : in, in; see in1 + stede, place; see stead + of, of; see of.] ), Fall or Feel : Veel (Veel means Falling , but in some cases it means to fall in love), Fire : Viraku (Firewood or Fire source in Tamil, this comes from the root "viri" (To open up breaking, up etc... the process of collecting dry wood from the trees, see below the word frissure), Fault/Fail : Varumai/Variya ( "Varumai" or "Variya" , Means Poverty / Lack of returns), Finger : Viral (Some little sound resemblance is there, this word comes from root "Viri" means to spread, to break open etc...,), Default : Thavaru (In Tamil it means "crime", ""wrong or acted wrong" and also "Thavirthal" for "missing or defaulting""), Delicate : Thalir (Tender, The newly grown leaves), Battle/bataille /Battalion : Padai ( In Tamil Padai means Army), Axe: Ari (Ari means "To take in, To cut") Axe=KOdAri, Bar: Paarai (Paarai means Large Rocks hidden inside and not easily moved), Arms: Aran (Aran in Tamil, means Tools for protection, often refers the King's fort, also Aranmanai=palace), Arm: Karam(Karam in Tamil, means hand ) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 17:02, 20 July 2016 (UTC), The word 'letter' is derived from tamil word 'எழுத்து'. Words like Carry, Carrier too were close to Kar], Big/Broad : Peru (பெரு) /Parutha (I think the word "Veengu" could be more close to "Big"), Vision: Vili (To see) [In Tamil the sound "Vi" means "To come out, Visible etc..." words like Vidai, Vilai, Vili, Vidu,Viri ], Voice : Vaaisol ("Speak with mouth", "Vaai" refers to mouth). Learn to speak Tamil through English or any of these 10 Indian languages; Assamese, Bengali, Gujarati, Hindi, Kannada, Malayalam, Marathi, Odia, Punjabi and Telugu. The usage of the so called MODERN Tamil is only due to spoilage/illiteracy or improper knowledge of the language. If any word in Tamil matches with English and the word has a long history, then the origin has to be mostly of Tamil origin. Not deviating from the article's issue, for the moment I think the existing one would be apt. To move or travel; proceed: We will go by bus. and it is indeed a stupid question!! Tamil has been on its own from its evolution. transitive (kick someone off something) informal to force someone to leave a place or activity He was kicked off the course for failing to hand in any work . Of or relating to the Tamil or their language or culture. Is this an compromise everyone is happy with? How does this specific point fit into changes made to the article? When such things happen, we have every right to demand an apology so that IN FUTURE OTHER USERS ARE PREVENTED FROM ABUSING AND INSULTING FELLOW WIKIPEDIANS and also to make sure that someone does not IMAGINES FACTS and write them as per his/her will just because he is an Administrator. Tamil purists believe that the Tamil language comes from Tamil Brahmi Language and claim it the oldest in the world whereas many believe and claim Sanskrit is the origin of all Indian languages whose impact has probably shown OED Sanskrit as the origin. 1. Because tamil words have a very depth base of each and every word.--Inbamkumar86 (talk) 11:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC) The general thought is that the more surface area (wrinkles, creases, etc.) Do you mean to say that a book is not authoritative if it does not have ISBN.